Alright, then I take it you want me to instate a permanent ban on you as you don't want me telling you the damn truth. I'll go ahead and do that. Not like it'll be much loss since you seem to think stealing from anyone and everyone is okay and don't own up to it until you're placed in a restricted group and confronted with the items right in front of your face.
There's also a difference; your help is useless as you're completely, utterly clueless. I hate to say it this way, but you are. I understand it's well intentioned, but it does nothing but annoy the hell out of people who actually have a clue. You don't understand anything about the client/server model, make suggestions that make no sense, and generally just cause a huge cloud of WTF in the middle of a conversation that is actually going somewhere. It's like you just regurgitate stuff you read on the Minecraft forums without a single thought.
Perhaps Notch believes that those who are keeping thier servers up are doing the testing. I doubt that a team of... Four people will be able to cover alot of ground by themselves.
Alright, then I take it you want me to instate a permanent ban on you as you don't want me telling you the damn truth. I'll go ahead and do that. Not like it'll be much loss since you seem to think stealing from anyone and everyone is okay and don't own up to it until you're placed in a restricted group and confronted with the items right in front of your face.
There's also a difference; your help is useless as you're completely, utterly clueless. I hate to say it this way, but you are. I understand it's well intentioned, but it does nothing but annoy the hell out of people who actually have a clue. You don't understand anything about the client/server model, make suggestions that make no sense, and generally just cause a huge cloud of WTF in the middle of a conversation that is actually going somewhere. It's like you just regurgitate stuff you read on the Minecraft forums without a single thought.
So you are sure that your help was not useless? Because it seems he obviously didn't want it since he insulted you. I am not saying that is right which is why I am confused as to why you would do the same thing. Also the stealing thing i could have easily kept all the items because you said I could but I did not did I? No, I tried giving them back as accurately as I could remember and am still working on giving them back. When we were discussing it on the server you told me you had forgiven me and that you were only happy that I had stopped stealing. It seems that was also a lie. If I am wrong somehow please tell me because I do want the truth.
So you are sure that your help was not useless? Because it seems he obviously didn't want it since he insulted you. I am not saying that's right which is why I am confused why you would do the same thing. Also the stealing thing i could have easily kept all the items because you said I could but I did not did I? No, I tried giving them back as accurately as I could remember and am still working on giving them back. When we were discussing it on the server you told me you had forgiven me and that you were only happy that I had stopped stealing. It seems that was also a lie. If I am wrong somehow please tell me because I do want the truth.
The stuff that I was helping with is the very, very, very dumbed down basics of stuff I do for a living. I'm entirely certain that what I was saying was relevant, and am entirely certain that what iplop was saying was relevant, and am entirely certain that Harris was doing it wrong, not listening to what we were saying, pretending to listen, and then insulting us based on his inability to follow directions.
Regarding you, I'm not going to lie, you just annoy the hell out of me and quite a few other people on the server. I try to be nice to everyone, always give them the benefit of the doubt, but at a certain point enough is enough and I will not deal with someone who repeatedly causes trouble. You've crossed that point. There really isn't much else to say.
it's funny how many people are getting perma banned off this server, they like adding a lot of stuff into it and making it the 1337est server out there but when it comes to player management?, you simply don't give a shit, that's why I don't play there.
it's funny how many people are getting perma banned off this server, they like adding a lot of stuff into it and making it the 1337est server out there but when it comes to player management?, you simply don't give a shit, that's why I don't play there.
there, I said it.
Y'know, the ban list is basically empty. I ban people who grief other people and/or start fights, nothing else. In the past week there were eh, 20 incidents that should have resulted in a ban based on the rules, and only two incidents did, and those were simply due to people picking fights/being assholes. The rest were resolved via talking to each other like decent people -- something that seems to escape the likes of Harris, The*K* and, as of reading this post I'm quoting, apparently yourself, despite everyone else saying you're a good guy. *shrug*
Hell, someone freakin took over my house without asking and it didn't even result in a ban because he and I were able to exercise this ability called 'communication.'
When you come and attack me for no reason I will not deal with it. If you talk to me like a normal person, holy crap, I'm reasonable! Absolutely amazing, isn't it?
What I was saying to try and help was not the basics? Of course it was but I had no idea what you had tried yet or not so I told you the first things to try then you ban me when really all I was doing was trying to help starting with the basics. Only warning I got was that I was being stupid but at that time all I had said was to try reconnecting which is what you already thought of but I did not know that at the time because I do not like to assume things of others. Also it obviously was a problem for only some people because I had none of those problems. Yes I admit saying I could see myself in 3rd person was awful dumb of me.
Y'know, the ban list is basically empty. I ban people who grief other people and/or start fights, nothing else. In the past week there were eh, 20 incidents that should have resulted in a ban based on the rules, and only two incidents did, and those were simply due to people picking fights/being assholes. The rest were resolved via talking to each other like decent people -- something that seems to escape the likes of Harris, The*K* and, as of reading this post I'm quoting, apparently yourself, despite everyone else saying you're a good guy. *shrug*
Hell, someone freakin took over my house without asking and it didn't even result in a ban because he and I were able to exercise this ability called 'communication.'
When you come and attack me for no reason I will not deal with it. If you talk to me like a normal person, holy crap, I'm reasonable! Absolutely amazing, isn't it?
You sound reasonable, but the lenght of your post (posts actually) and the effort that took you to sound reasonable obviously shows that you're good at sounding reasonable.
Yet I see people arguing and.. wait who the hell are you?
I mean I'm sorry to be blunt but I don't even recall knowing you yet you're here talking about who you banned and you you didn't ban..
whatever, it's not my problem, there, I'm reasonable too
Y'know, the ban list is basically empty. I ban people who grief other people and/or start fights, nothing else. In the past week there were eh, 20 incidents that should have resulted in a ban based on the rules, and only two incidents did, and those were simply due to people picking fights/being assholes. The rest were resolved via talking to each other like decent people -- something that seems to escape the likes of Harris, The*K* and, as of reading this post I'm quoting, apparently yourself, despite everyone else saying you're a good guy. *shrug*
Hell, someone freakin took over my house without asking and it didn't even result in a ban because he and I were able to exercise this ability called 'communication.'
When you come and attack me for no reason I will not deal with it. If you talk to me like a normal person, holy crap, I'm reasonable! Absolutely amazing, isn't it?
How was I ever indecent to you and you know for a fact that we "communicated" for a very long time over the theft incident and were both very "decent" throughout. Also it is pretty hard to talk with you like a normal person when you call some one dumb count that as a warning then ban them? That is very far from decent.
What I was saying to try and help was not the basics? Of course it was but I had no idea what you had tried yet or not so I told you the first things to try then you ban me when really all I was doing was trying to help starting with the basics. Only warning I got was that I was being stupid but at that time all I had said was to try reconnecting which is what you already thought of but I did not know that at the time because I do not like to assume things of others. Also it obviously was a problem for only some people because I had none of those problems. Yes I admit saying I could see myself in 3rd person was awful dumb of me.
This is completely relevant to me talking about attempting to help Harris with PC issues.
You have to understand something. There are certain times when you don't open your mouth. I understand you were trying to be helpful, but you also should understand my position and what I do for a living with computers considering the conversations that you should see almost every day while logged in. I don't start bitching until far more than basic troubleshooting has already completely failed.
What you've always done whenever there was a tech problem was essentially the same as someone who's never done any work with computer programming in any way shape or form and going up to say, Adobe, and telling them that they should try installing Firefox to fix Photoshop.
You sound reasonable, but the lenght of your post (posts actually) and the effort that took you to sound reasonable obviously shows that you're good at sounding reasonable.
Yet I see people arguing and.. wait who the hell are you?
I mean I'm sorry to be blunt but I don't even recall knowing you yet you're here talking about who you banned and you you didn't ban..
whatever, it's not my problem, there, I'm reasonable too
Sounding reasonable and being reasonable aren't mutually exclusive y'know. I just tend to be verbose. Either way, fair enough.
About the 'who the hell are you' - iplop basically handed the thing over to me for some reason or another once we started talking Minecraft.
I went to a few servers this afternoon.
The new update works fairly well. You just need to do a few things.
1) Disable PvP
2) Disable mobs
3) Disable Animals
That's about it. ;o
Well, yeah, that fixes it in most cases except for the one case that causes you to spawn, not load chunks, and instantly fall to your death leaving you as a ghost object to the server. Only way to fix that one is deleting the player profile on the server.
This is completely relevant to me talking about attempting to help Harris with PC issues.
You have to understand something. There are certain times when you don't open your mouth. I understand you were trying to be helpful, but you also should understand my position and what I do for a living with computers considering the conversations that you should see almost every day while logged in. I don't start bitching until far more than basic troubleshooting has already completely failed.
What you've always done whenever there was a tech problem was essentially the same as someone who's never done any work with computer programming in any way shape or form and going up to say, Adobe, and telling them that they should try installing Firefox to fix Photoshop.
I understand where you're coming from but if I am not helping you are not supposed to say you are just being dumb then ban me. Also I am not as dumb as you think considering that I do a bit of scripting myself and I could probably help if you would give me a chance.
My god... So this is what happens when too many people undergo too much stress.
I 1. Sympathize with Thalagyrt and all hte others who are weathering this attack we call an update and 2. Shall fight this humanity that is ripping us in half. It's not the line between the two sides that is the problem, but more of the collateral damage it may cause.
I suggest a ceasefire. Those who don't want to play on our server, don't start anything with those who do. I think ThexKx needs to get Thal's point to please be quiet when he is likely to get angry and should be unbanned (again...).
My god... So this is what happens when too many people undergo too much stress.
I 1. Sympathize with Thalagyrt and all hte others who are weathering this attack we call an update and 2. Shall fight this humanity that is ripping us in half. It's not the line between the two sides that is the problem, but more of the collateral damage it may cause.
I suggest a ceasefire. Those who don't want to play on our server, don't start anything with those who do. I think ThexKx needs to get Thal's point to please be quiet when he is likely to get angry and should be unbanned (again...).
And don't forget to yell WTF at Technician.
WTF Tech!!!
So true. I was just talking to Iplop about something almost identical. You don't want to see a community that otherwise functions very well getting torn apart because of outside forces. It just sucks. I'm frustrated because of server stuff, then I have what amounts to excess noise getting thrown at me by a few people, I mention that I'm frustrated here, get more noise thrown at me by one person who spewed attacks yesterday, then get attacks spewed by someone who doesn't even give a shit about the server. Makes me wonder why I even bother, and makes me wonder why Iplop has bothered as long as he did and still does.
Well, Iplop, you're like.. an admin in this section or so it seems.
So here, I'll tell you what you should do.
I think it's fair that you change this thread's name to "Iplops server" or something like that, and then sticky it, the reason for that is that I've heard some other people are going to start their servers too and this forum has been (understandably) dedicated to your server, but it's time to expand already.
Well, Iplop, you're like.. an admin in this section or so it seems.
So here, I'll tell you what you should do.
I think it's fair that you change this thread's name to "Iplops server" or something like that, and then sticky it, the reason for that is that I've heard some other people are going to start their servers too and this forum has been (understandably) dedicated to your server, but it's time to expand already.
civilizedly yours.
Not at all. I've said a number of times that other servers would be great.
I won't sticky this thread because its sort of a dinosaur. Outdated as fuck.
Initially this thread's purpose was to spread the word about minecraft and *cough cough* try to get someone to host *cough cough*. After I started hosting a server (no one else was doing it >.> ) I kept using this thread to avoid spamming the general section with MC posts.
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Also, lol black and white. Just because the guy's incompetent doesn't mean I can't enjoy the game.
Fuck off, troll elsewhere.
sound familiar? o ya its u
Alright, then I take it you want me to instate a permanent ban on you as you don't want me telling you the damn truth. I'll go ahead and do that. Not like it'll be much loss since you seem to think stealing from anyone and everyone is okay and don't own up to it until you're placed in a restricted group and confronted with the items right in front of your face.
There's also a difference; your help is useless as you're completely, utterly clueless. I hate to say it this way, but you are. I understand it's well intentioned, but it does nothing but annoy the hell out of people who actually have a clue. You don't understand anything about the client/server model, make suggestions that make no sense, and generally just cause a huge cloud of WTF in the middle of a conversation that is actually going somewhere. It's like you just regurgitate stuff you read on the Minecraft forums without a single thought.
So you are sure that your help was not useless? Because it seems he obviously didn't want it since he insulted you. I am not saying that is right which is why I am confused as to why you would do the same thing. Also the stealing thing i could have easily kept all the items because you said I could but I did not did I? No, I tried giving them back as accurately as I could remember and am still working on giving them back. When we were discussing it on the server you told me you had forgiven me and that you were only happy that I had stopped stealing. It seems that was also a lie. If I am wrong somehow please tell me because I do want the truth.
The stuff that I was helping with is the very, very, very dumbed down basics of stuff I do for a living. I'm entirely certain that what I was saying was relevant, and am entirely certain that what iplop was saying was relevant, and am entirely certain that Harris was doing it wrong, not listening to what we were saying, pretending to listen, and then insulting us based on his inability to follow directions.
Regarding you, I'm not going to lie, you just annoy the hell out of me and quite a few other people on the server. I try to be nice to everyone, always give them the benefit of the doubt, but at a certain point enough is enough and I will not deal with someone who repeatedly causes trouble. You've crossed that point. There really isn't much else to say.
there, I said it.
Y'know, the ban list is basically empty. I ban people who grief other people and/or start fights, nothing else. In the past week there were eh, 20 incidents that should have resulted in a ban based on the rules, and only two incidents did, and those were simply due to people picking fights/being assholes. The rest were resolved via talking to each other like decent people -- something that seems to escape the likes of Harris, The*K* and, as of reading this post I'm quoting, apparently yourself, despite everyone else saying you're a good guy. *shrug*
Hell, someone freakin took over my house without asking and it didn't even result in a ban because he and I were able to exercise this ability called 'communication.'
When you come and attack me for no reason I will not deal with it. If you talk to me like a normal person, holy crap, I'm reasonable! Absolutely amazing, isn't it?
You sound reasonable, but the lenght of your post (posts actually) and the effort that took you to sound reasonable obviously shows that you're good at sounding reasonable.
Yet I see people arguing and.. wait who the hell are you?
I mean I'm sorry to be blunt but I don't even recall knowing you yet you're here talking about who you banned and you you didn't ban..
whatever, it's not my problem, there, I'm reasonable too
This is completely relevant to me talking about attempting to help Harris with PC issues.
You have to understand something. There are certain times when you don't open your mouth. I understand you were trying to be helpful, but you also should understand my position and what I do for a living with computers considering the conversations that you should see almost every day while logged in. I don't start bitching until far more than basic troubleshooting has already completely failed.
What you've always done whenever there was a tech problem was essentially the same as someone who's never done any work with computer programming in any way shape or form and going up to say, Adobe, and telling them that they should try installing Firefox to fix Photoshop.
Oh, thanks for the background filling!
The new update works fairly well. You just need to do a few things.
1) Disable PvP
2) Disable mobs
3) Disable Animals
That's about it. ;o
Sounding reasonable and being reasonable aren't mutually exclusive y'know. I just tend to be verbose. Either way, fair enough.
About the 'who the hell are you' - iplop basically handed the thing over to me for some reason or another once we started talking Minecraft.
Well, yeah, that fixes it in most cases except for the one case that causes you to spawn, not load chunks, and instantly fall to your death leaving you as a ghost object to the server. Only way to fix that one is deleting the player profile on the server.
Tehehe :nag:
Please keep the character attacks and such to a minimum.
Otherwise I'l have to lock this thread.
I 1. Sympathize with Thalagyrt and all hte others who are weathering this attack we call an update and 2. Shall fight this humanity that is ripping us in half. It's not the line between the two sides that is the problem, but more of the collateral damage it may cause.
I suggest a ceasefire. Those who don't want to play on our server, don't start anything with those who do. I think ThexKx needs to get Thal's point to please be quiet when he is likely to get angry and should be unbanned (again...).
And don't forget to yell WTF at Technician.
WTF Tech!!!
So true. I was just talking to Iplop about something almost identical. You don't want to see a community that otherwise functions very well getting torn apart because of outside forces. It just sucks. I'm frustrated because of server stuff, then I have what amounts to excess noise getting thrown at me by a few people, I mention that I'm frustrated here, get more noise thrown at me by one person who spewed attacks yesterday, then get attacks spewed by someone who doesn't even give a shit about the server. Makes me wonder why I even bother, and makes me wonder why Iplop has bothered as long as he did and still does.
So here, I'll tell you what you should do.
I think it's fair that you change this thread's name to "Iplops server" or something like that, and then sticky it, the reason for that is that I've heard some other people are going to start their servers too and this forum has been (understandably) dedicated to your server, but it's time to expand already.
civilizedly yours.
I won't sticky this thread because its sort of a dinosaur. Outdated as fuck.
Initially this thread's purpose was to spread the word about minecraft and *cough cough* try to get someone to host *cough cough*. After I started hosting a server (no one else was doing it >.> ) I kept using this thread to avoid spamming the general section with MC posts.
Go Forth and Start Your Servers! >: O
/me backs out slowely
/me follows Alviss