Unless you've got anything constructive to say about music, stfu and gtfo out of this thread.
Anyway, Mez / Nao see if you can torrent a copy of Ableton Live 7. That's the program I / my band use to do our production on. It can handle audio and MIDI and, with an audio interface / decent soundcard you can play guitars and vocals straight into it!
Anyway, Mez / Nao see if you can torrent a copy of Ableton Live 7. That's the program I / my band use to do our production on. It can handle audio and MIDI and, with an audio interface / decent soundcard you can play guitars and vocals straight into it!
Lot of /s used in that post
lol, at least we have options with all the /s.
If Nao wants to Torrent it, that'd be fine, but my computer can't...any connections other than standard internet (extreme internet makes it crash) and my system fries.
I'll do some research on the program, though. Before I do, though, is it an audio-mixer, an editor, or merely a better recording program? Or something else entirely? o_O
It's a general music production package. It has a sequencer window where u can drag audio and midi around in, you can record onto it etc etc. It has a built in mixer with auxilarys so you can use send effects as well as inserts (industry standard) it also has some mastering tools and you can warp sampled drum beats/ vocals/ whatever else to tempo which is cool. Loads of built in effects and processes, supports VSTs, blah blah, some other stuff.
Here's a pic of how the sequencer window looks. There's another side of Ableton called the Scene view which lets use Ableton to perform live. If you're at a gig and some1 has a laptop and are playing techno or something like that, chances are that they're using Ableton Live http://images.macnn.com/macnn/news/0804/2-ableton-in.jpg
It's easy to use if you have experience working with similar programs (eg. Cubase, Reason, FruityLoops, Protools, Logic, Acid, Nuendo etc.) but it can be very very daunting otherwise. You can pick it up fairly quickly, and especially if you play an instrument which you run effects through. I recommend getting into Ableton though, as it's fucking good fun
It's easy to use if you have experience working with similar programs (eg. Cubase, Reason, FruityLoops, Protools, Logic, Acid, Nuendo etc.) but it can be very very daunting otherwise. You can pick it up fairly quickly, and especially if you play an instrument which you run effects through. I recommend getting into Ableton though, as it's fucking good fun
Sounds easy enough...plus, if push comes to shove, I can just ask you for some help
I'll have to speak to my technology guy to get it...
Fruity Loops is an awesome Loop Based program to start, I'd recommend you start with that one, then move into more advanced stuff like the stuff Spin uses.
none of you people know me well enough to destinguish me from a younger sibling.
sorry, jOo PhAiL!
Dude, there's no older trick than doing something stupid, only to then blame your brother.
And trust me, noone in this forum (besides you) is stupid/young enough to believe that.
So before telling Meza he fails (even thought he doesn't), realise how hard you are failing.
No, not psychic, but I use common sense. The reason we can't distinguish you from a younger sibling because you act the same way we'd expect an annoying immature tyke to act
Thanks for the pre-offered assistance Spin If I ever get my hands on it and it tweaks, I'll be sure to contact you.
And I never heard of Frootyloops before...isn't Audacity a loop-based program as well?
No, not psychic, but I use common sense. The reason we can't distinguish you from a younger sibling because you act the same way we'd expect an annoying immature tyke to act
treat me like a child, and ill behave like a child.
It's not that it has more or less capabilities, they're just different things.
But if you prefer a loop based editor, then be my guest.
Audacity is a Mastering tool, very much like Sound Forge and Wavelab, only nowhere near as good
Audacity is what you'd use after you've bounced your song down to a stereo .wav file to EQ it, normalise (increase the volume of the track until the loudest peaks are at 0dB) and maximise (i think this boosts the quieter parts of your track to make it more consistant, but it's an awesome tool to boost the volume of your tracks with out distorting them)
So basically you use Audacity to polish up your song after you've finished making it and make it suitable for realease. A good pop producer will pay literally £1000s to get a song mastered properly so if you get good at it, there's a lot of money to be made!
EQ = equalize(r).
Spin, have you been able to find spare time in the studio yet?
Ah shit I'd totally forgotten about that mate! Sorry been proper busy! I'm away this weekend but I'll see if I can't torrent a good copy of Wavelab and do it for ya in the week
If I ain't doing anything it's prolly because I forgot so just gimme a poke if I've gone quiet about it
Okay, first attempt...the little "sample" thingy? Yeah, I've been jacking with the timing and somehow managed to screw it up.
So I'm making a new one.
And this one's better (for now).
I even have DRUMS in it!
Hell, as far as I know, I just need to set the right tracks to play at the right time, perhaps add incoherent background talking, and then BAM! A sawng.
Okay, first attempt...the little "sample" thingy? Yeah, I've been jacking with the timing and somehow managed to screw it up.
So I'm making a new one.
And this one's better (for now).
I even have DRUMS in it!
Hell, as far as I know, I just need to set the right tracks to play at the right time, perhaps add incoherent background talking, and then BAM! A sawng.
A good idea is to see if the program you are recording into has a click track, which is basically a metronome. If you play in time with the metronome then every instrument will be in time!
Also, if you can help it, try not to warp / time stretch vocals or guitars. It only really works effectively on drums
It has a click track, but the problem with my computer is that...well, I either have sound going in, or sound going out...
I can either record directly into the computer without hearing a thing, or listen to the program without any input, so unfortunately, I can't coordinate the times...don't worry though, about the only thing I stretched was in fact the drum track
I just need an actual band going so I don't have to line up my own timing again and again o_O
On a similar note...I've discovered that I have really weird timing, when put into perspective...
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Anyway, Mez / Nao see if you can torrent a copy of Ableton Live 7. That's the program I / my band use to do our production on. It can handle audio and MIDI and, with an audio interface / decent soundcard you can play guitars and vocals straight into it!
Lot of /s used in that post
Don't you dare try to put this on someone else. I know it was you.
lol, at least we have options with all the /s.
If Nao wants to Torrent it, that'd be fine, but my computer can't...any connections other than standard internet (extreme internet makes it crash) and my system fries.
I'll do some research on the program, though. Before I do, though, is it an audio-mixer, an editor, or merely a better recording program? Or something else entirely? o_O
Here's a pic of how the sequencer window looks. There's another side of Ableton called the Scene view which lets use Ableton to perform live. If you're at a gig and some1 has a laptop and are playing techno or something like that, chances are that they're using Ableton Live
http://images.macnn.com/macnn/news/0804/2-ableton-in.jpg
I'm assuming it's user-friendly?
And no Meza, they aint user friendly, they're actually pretty hard to use lol.
Looping things can be funny as hell sometimes.
And here is what I mean:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pS-1d0E9AE
I'll have to speak to my technology guy to get it...
>_> Psst...Nao...hey...
/me wears foil hat.
none of you people know me well enough to destinguish me from a younger sibling.
sorry, jOo PhAiL!
And Mez, I'm fluent in Reason 4.0, Cubase SX3, Protools LE7 and Ableton Live 7.0.3 so if you're using any of those I'd be glad to help
Dude, there's no older trick than doing something stupid, only to then blame your brother.
And trust me, noone in this forum (besides you) is stupid/young enough to believe that.
So before telling Meza he fails (even thought he doesn't), realise how hard you are failing.
Thanks for the pre-offered assistance Spin
And I never heard of Frootyloops before...isn't Audacity a loop-based program as well?
No!, not at all.
Here, take a look at this screenshot, it's one of my songs.
Notice how Spins screenshot shows something that looks like a flash's timetable , while mine just shows the tracks thrown around there.
When you grow up you'll realise it works like this :
Behave like an adult and you'll be treated like an adult.
Also... Keep bugging me when I build and refuse to stop after asking multiple times, and I'll treat you like a child.
But if you prefer a loop based editor, then be my guest.
I still need to work on that song >_> Jeeze I'm lazy...
Nao, if you're lurking, no, I still don't have drums.
Audacity is what you'd use after you've bounced your song down to a stereo .wav file to EQ it, normalise (increase the volume of the track until the loudest peaks are at 0dB) and maximise (i think this boosts the quieter parts of your track to make it more consistant, but it's an awesome tool to boost the volume of your tracks with out distorting them)
So basically you use Audacity to polish up your song after you've finished making it and make it suitable for realease. A good pop producer will pay literally £1000s to get a song mastered properly so if you get good at it, there's a lot of money to be made!
Yeah man you need any help, just shout ^_^
What does EQ stand for?
Spin, have you been able to find spare time in the studio yet?
LOL!! xD
Ah shit I'd totally forgotten about that mate! Sorry been proper busy! I'm away this weekend but I'll see if I can't torrent a good copy of Wavelab and do it for ya in the week
If I ain't doing anything it's prolly because I forgot so just gimme a poke if I've gone quiet about it
So I'm making a new one.
And this one's better (for now).
I even have DRUMS in it!
Hell, as far as I know, I just need to set the right tracks to play at the right time, perhaps add incoherent background talking, and then BAM! A sawng.
Also, if you can help it, try not to warp / time stretch vocals or guitars. It only really works effectively on drums
I can either record directly into the computer without hearing a thing, or listen to the program without any input, so unfortunately, I can't coordinate the times...don't worry though, about the only thing I stretched was in fact the drum track
I just need an actual band going so I don't have to line up my own timing again and again o_O
On a similar note...I've discovered that I have really weird timing, when put into perspective...